Are you referring to something specific? That's Ben Wittes, by the way. Extra! He was at the Baghdad International Airport. That would have been hard for you, I would figure. Go, go, go. BEN WITTES: Then the next sentence is, "He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months, including the attack on December 27th culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. ", [NEWS CLIP: Terrorism targets in Africa. It sounds like a sort of the legal version of a Choose Your Own Adventure in a way. Yeah, that was a -- that was a very kind of hair-raising day. Should the citizens of the United States know who it is that the United States is targeting for death around the world? ", It relates to the incident, and is broad authority relating to the incident. We expect things will likely change pretty rapidly, and we'll do our best to update this episode as -- as they do. So the drone strikes and the raids would continue. The argument with which I am comfortable as a legal matter ... Is this. ], And when you add or subtract names from that list, would you let us know?]. So at that moment with the memorial service about to start, and a few hours until the House vote, Barbara Lee was at the Capitol. And if you define the enemy as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban and associated forces, it's a whole different ball game. And, you know, votes like this you have to be ready to pay the consequences. Yeah. It was actually raining that day. . Let's start there. For the souls and sacred memory of those who have been lost.]. Now many of them are backbenchers. It’s thought to be slang for “digging,” in this case meaning "to get below the surface of things for knowledge or understanding.". So does this make them an associated force, or does it make them part of Al-Qaeda? Start of message. We produced that episode in April of 2014, and as I mentioned at the top of the episode this -- the reason this came to mind for us now, the reason we decided to re-release this podcast is -- is what happened four days ago. We will link to it from Radiolab.org. You use it 13 times in your statement. But common sense tells you that these are different kind of enemy, not a state or a government. Members, individual members -- and Senator Tim Kaine deserves a real shout out here -- have tried to assert a kind of principled limits on allowing this drift to take place, but the actual posture institutionally of Congress is it doesn't push back against these theories, it doesn't clarify the law. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP, Reverend Nathan Baxter: That as we act, we not become the evil we deplore.]. Then I guess like, the -- the important question for me is like, how often do they say no? And maybe she saw something about how this would play out. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP, Carl Levin: Would you -- would you give us that list? Is this an AUMF-type situation or has that been phased out? It's called, 60 Words And A War Without End: The Untold Story of The Most Dangerous Sentence In U.S. History. Yeah. DANIEL KLAIDMAN: But I interviewed numerous people who participated in these meetings, and one of the things that I heard over and over again was that there was this kind of inexorable momentum toward killing, and that the military people in these meetings could speak with a kind of a tone of do-or-die urgency. Broken chairs, smashed tables and the sounds of pain as rescuers search for the living and the dead.]. [NEWS CLIP: Good morning, everyone. It seems to say it invokes -- it is suggestive of imminence without saying it. So how do you read detention from these 60 words?". But a lesser use of force is to detain them. LX, sixty. And that's the crazy part. But if you really want to understand the world we live in now, you've got to jump ahead one day to September 12th, to a corner office in the White House where there's a lawyer sitting at a computer trying to figure out how are we going to declare war? And this is not a Trump thing. This is the legal foundation for everything that the US has done. Emails. Mr. Allard. And then you don't have to go to Congress at all. Because we're just talking about Al-Qaeda who did this and the Taliban who have harbored them, right? I think it's at least 10 to 20 years.]. From the old French establissement, meaning “an act or process of establishing,” the use of the capitalized word Establishment in conjunction with the is now commonly used to describe the entrenched ruling class.The Establishment became the top target in the 60s of youthful revolutions around the world, especially in the United States. JAD: I mean, it's true there might be reasons for this. ", Gentlemen, I've only been here five months, but this is the most astounding and most astoundingly disturbing hearing that I've been to since I've been here. And so if you say, "Well, these are associated groups," well then certain people just move from group A to Group B. Now at that moment, Barbara Lee ... She hadn't decided how it is that she was gonna vote. [LETTER: You are a blight on American society, a terrorist yourself. And so seven days after that Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, President Obama ... [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: It is a great honor ...], [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: ... to return to the National Defense University.]. JAD: Congressional leadership decided that these 60 words ... GREGORY JOHNSEN: This is the version. ], [ARCHIVE CLIP, Barack Obama: A just war.]. [ARCHIVE CLIP, DoD Official: Against Al-Qaeda and associated forces.]. 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